South Dakota is about to launch the first salvo in what is likely to become the Supreme Court battle pro-choicers have been dreading for years.
The bill, carrying a penalty of up to five years in prison, would make it a felony for doctors or others to perform abortions.
The bill would inevitably be subject to legal challenge and eventually seen in front of the new Roberts-Alito Supreme Court, where the two justices’ loyalty to the Religious Right will be tested.
On principle, my main concern with overturning Roe v. Wade has a lot more to do with the idea of individual privacy than it does with whether abortions should be legal or not, since the right to privacy was the determining factor in legalizing abortions. I find it ironic that so-called “conservatives” don’t favor allowing individuals to make their own choices.
Overturning Roe wouldn’t be the end of the world though. Most people take a moderate stance on abortions that can only be described as pro-choice, even if they describe themselves as pro-life. They might hate the idea of abortions, but they’re not willing to go back to coathangers either. So, if the legality of abortions was decided in Congress rather than in the courts, a lot of legislators who bluster about abortion being murder would be forced to put their money where their mouth is and vote on it. Either they would ban abortions and be turned out by their constituents (who are generally in favor of at least some abortion being available), or be forced to admit that “well, I wasn’t quite as extreme as I made myself out to be.” The Republicans who chose the latter option would be turned out by the extreme wing of their party.
So, I don’t see Roe v. Wade being overturned as anything but a losing proposition for Republicans. And after the Republican Congress was turned out, the newly-elected Democratic Congress would overturn any anti-abortion law passed anyway. The worst that comes out of this is a couple of years where abortions are outlawed, and the end result will be airtight abortion allowances that won’t ever have Congressional support to be overturned.
Further, whatever will the Republicans run on if they don’t have abortion as their smoke screen issue? They’re not going to run on national security anymore, given that Iraq is about to break out into civil war and the president of the United States today said “people don’t need to worry about security.” There’s only so much anti-homosexual rhetoric that people outside of Mississippi will put up with.






It never ceases to astound me that this is still an issue - and such a big one - in this country. Europe got over it decades ago. What’s our fucking problem?
And even if abortion were outlawed, if the daughter of any Congressman that voted in favor of outlawing it happened to get knocked up, she’d still be whisked away to some remote “health spa” for a special “procedure”.
My mother-in-law voted for B*sh. I asked her what the hell she was thinking (not that one vote either way would make a difference in Georgia). She’s staunchly pro-choice. She declared that there’s no way anyone would ever make abortion illegal again.
It’s only my desire to not get divorced that keeps me from running over there and saying “See? This is what happen when people make stupid, uninformed decisions!”
I posted on this too, and I am beginning to be sorry that I did. I can’t believe there are still people in this country that want to take away people’s right and impart their beliefs on women’s health.
Fuck that.
Yes, and we should hold ourselves to high example of leadership that the Europeans have. Because people like Chirac and backroom deals such as what happened in Germany are what we need as examples of leadership.
Oh well, at least I have stopped expecting more…
Ooooo yeah, baby, appeal to that spite. Poison that well, just like that, yeah. You know I love it when you drop that guilt by association on me. It makes me hot.
It seems so hypocritic that Dems will promote abortion and then bitch about Republican’s wanting to cut welfare. If you’re not worried about babies in the womb, why worry about how big of a check they receive the day after they are born?
Yeah, maybe on Planet Ass-backwards. Here in the real world, however, some people have the capacity to realize how little the two issues have to do with one another and consider them independently.
“Not worried about babies in the womb”? I know we live in a democracy and all that, meaning everyone gets their vote, but god damn, if that’s really what you think the Dems’ position on abortion boils down to, you really should not be voting on issues that affect the lives of others.